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Post by jordan on Aug 5, 2010 8:40:57 GMT -5
two places I run when I'm in town with dennis and the boys. the canal (hands down my favorite place to run, boring... yes. but I could run out and back everyday on the canal) and mason road. If a workout is slated, to mason road I go. great mix of hills and flat.
Gbrown what is a PO2 canister? i'm a bit young for this reference?
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Post by Justin on Aug 5, 2010 8:51:13 GMT -5
Bill McFarland lives on!
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Post by gdbrown on Aug 5, 2010 10:32:46 GMT -5
First, I'm not going to pretend to know the science behind the PO2 canister, Jordan. (A quick Google search states it deals with partial pressure of oxygen which makes sense.)
Imagine a person running who looked liked he should be scuba diving minus the eye mask - that's what Dave looked like when he wore it. It strapped around his shoulders, held two canisters in the back, and a tube ran from the back to his mouth. It simulated altitude training. That's the best way for me to describe it. He trained with it a fair amount in the early 80s. I believe Alberto Salazar was the first person to train with one.
Justin - do runners still stop at McFarland's water stop?
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Post by Justin on Aug 5, 2010 11:12:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure if anybody stops there. In fact, I'm not sure the spigot is still there, but I don't see why it wouldn't be. I'll have to check it out the next time I run that way.
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Post by wvrunner on Aug 5, 2010 14:35:42 GMT -5
Dave told me about the spigot but I haven't noticed it there recently (maybe haven't looked either). I agree about Mason's Road. It was a lifesaver this winter. It's always plowed with little or no traffic.
I recall running on Mason's one brutally hot, fall Sunday morning. My brother and a few of his Frostburg teammates had decided to join us. I believe the boys had been "out on the town" the night before. We ran out to the 7 mile mark from AC and turned around. As we approached the 10 mile mark on the way back (4 mile mark on the road) Chris Lesser decided that the creek below looked to good to pass up. He hopped the guardrail just pass the 4 mile mark and made a mad dash to the creek. The rest of the team quickly joined in . Needless to say I finished the "group" run solo.
One other interesting Mason Road story. Dave and I were running past Dr. McCaugh's house one morning. A small dog started following us and followed us back to the college. This was a total of about 5.5 miles. If my memory serves me correctly we returned the dog to it's owners by car after the run.
Has anyone on this board ever been on one of Dave's Pepsi Runs???
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Post by gdbrown on Aug 5, 2010 16:37:49 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing that story about the dog - I had never heard that one.
I'm not sure of the specifics of "Dave's Pepsi Runs, " Coach Mickey, but I know that Dave would often times show up for a training run or a race still consuming the last few swallows of a "Boss Pepsi."
This is the honest to goodness truth - As mentioned on the thread about the "10 Mile Club Challenge" in Columbia, Dave won that race many years ago in 50+ minutes. About 20-30 minutes before race time he just finished 3-4 doughnuts and a "Boss," and he never, to my knowledge, threw up in that race or any other race...............with the exception of when he took what he thought was a glass of water from a spectator at Boston...it wasn't water - it was vodka...yuck!
Some great stories have been told on Mason Road - for sure...please continue to share them.
On another note: Can anyone name Dave's late rabbit that he used to walk on a leash? (I'm not kidding - it had the run of his house, too.)
Tomorrow I plan on sharing one more photo that I think is telling about the QCS and its early membership.
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Post by dmickey on Aug 5, 2010 19:53:09 GMT -5
George I can bring some track house stories up if you want?
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Post by wvrunner on Aug 5, 2010 20:24:23 GMT -5
Dave's Pepsi Runs were pretty simple. Show up at ACC (now ACM) and run 10-15 miles. Often time they were run in the 6:00-6:30 pace range. When the run was over Dave treated everyone to a 32 ounce Pepsi at the Sheetz on Greene Street. Prior to training with Dave I had stopped drinking soda, started really watching what I ate, and tried to do the whole healthy eating/drinking thing. The Pepsi runs put a strange twist to that.
That brings up another interesting point. It seems that runners who trained seriously in the 70's and 80's seemed to pay less attention to nutrition than runners in the 90's and beyond. Many of the top notch runners who I learned my running lessons from ate and drank whatever they wanted and still ran fast. Dave and Smitty always had the philosophy that if the fire in the furnace is hot enough (metabolism) you will burn anything.
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Post by gdbrown on Aug 6, 2010 7:05:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure if those "Animal House" - I mean track house stories would be appropriate, Coach Donnie Mickey. "If only that house could talk." Sure, if you have any appropriate stories, feel free to share them.
I'm a little disappointed, Coach Mickey. I was never privy to one of Dave's Pepsi Runs. (I'll have to hit him up next time I see him - after I figure out how many times we ran together over the years.) You are correct - I know for a fact Dave did not consider what type of fuel he was putting in his body...who's to argue though...it worked.
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Post by gdbrown on Aug 6, 2010 7:06:11 GMT -5
Identify the individuals in the photo, the event and the year. Attachments:
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Post by wvrunner on Aug 6, 2010 13:38:47 GMT -5
The only two that I think I can recognize are Coach Brown and bottom row 2nd from the left looks like Sandy Dyche. Was this the old 24 hour relay the Striders did annually?
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Post by gdbrown on Aug 6, 2010 16:17:52 GMT -5
Coach Mickey is correct - this photo was taken after the 2nd QCS 24 Hour Relay held in 1978 (actually completed 32 years ago to the day of this posting), and I believe the last one. The first one was run at on the track at ACC in 1977. 8 of the folks in the photo ran in the first one, in addition to Charlie Thompson and Ray Kiddy. (As discussed previously, not the "Ray Kiddy" who currently participates in local races.) Between the '77 relay and the '78 relay, Charlie Thompson moved to NY and Ray Kiddy injured his knee, so he was unable to participate. I didn't run in '77, but I remember going to the track at ACM, and Matt Cline and I ran as support runners for a period of time. The '77 relay was run to benefit the continued construction of the parcourse. The '78 relay was a benefit for the 1979 Special Olympics, and, according to the QCS Newsletter, $1,000.00 were raised for the cause. The relay was run at Fort Hill Stadium. (Yes, that's what it was called in 1978, and it is referred to as such in the August-September 1978 QCS Newsletter.) The '78 team ran 251 miles + 1,480 yards. There was a huge 24 hour relay event held during that same weekend for several years at Fort Meade, MD. According to Runners' World magazine, the distance accumulated by the QCS team ranked 13th in the world in 1978. Many of the teams ranked ahead of the QCS participated at Fort Meade. Robert "Nut" Hall participated on some of those teams, and some of the mile totals accumulated at Fort Meade were impressive to say the least. To the photo: Front row left to right - Dan Whetzel, Sandy Dyche (good call Coach Mickey), Frank Palumbo and Pat McWhirter. Back row left to right - Tim Travis, Me, Bob Thomas, Steve Shumaker, Dennis Albright and Donnie McCreary. Notice the t-shirt Dennis is wearing: It was the first club t-shirt (not singlet). Also, the shirts that Tim and Steve are wearing were the ones given at one of the Mason Road races. It is obvious by the t-shirt that Donnie is wearing that he ran in the original Maryland Marathon - probably in 1977. (The old course started at Memorial Stadium went out Perring Parkway to Loch Raven Reservoir, up "Satyr" Hill, back along Perring Parkway to the finish at Memorial Stadium.) I've attached a copy of the mile breakdowns for each person. At the bottom of the page it is noted that 2 minutes and 58 seconds are "not accounted for." Notice that Dennis Albright had a string of 12 consecutive miles under 5 minutes.............Then, he started to "cat nap." I found it best not to sleep, which was very difficult. As a 17 year old at the time, this experience was the absolute best. For me it provided the physical and social outlet that I needed at that point in my life. In Dan Whetzel's words, "the running boom of the 70s and 80s was a social phenomenon," and the relay exemplified this phenomenon. As mentioned before, I'm very glad to see a resurgence of running in the area. Keep it up! The friendships you foster through running will remain for a long, long time. Attachments:
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Post by wvrunner on Aug 6, 2010 16:48:33 GMT -5
Those are some very impressive splits by all Coach Brown. I'm not surprised at Dennis Albright's accomplishments at all. He loved to "hammer" on daily runs. If he showed up for a run you knew you were going to run fast.
I do believe another 24 hour relay was held sometime in the late 80's/early 90's. I think it was run at Frostburg State's track. Smitty at one time had a video of it. Looks like a great time.
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Post by gdbrown on Aug 7, 2010 12:24:20 GMT -5
It was a great time, Coach Mickey; one of the highlights of my running career. Movin' on... I know there is at least one person who has been following this thread who can identify at least one of the FH runners. Is there anyone who can identify any of the Frankfort runners? (I can't.) The photo was taken in 1979 - I believe. FH's old XC course was at the Constitution Park (road and trails). Attachments:
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Post by dmickey on Aug 7, 2010 13:16:07 GMT -5
Phil Lang was big into the Ft. Meade one. We ran together for 2 of the years in 88 and 89. The 88 team won the Ft. Meade 24 hour relay with 263 miles. We came back in 89, but ran a co-ed team that year won the co-ed division, but didn't run as far. I do remember a guy named John Scherer from Howard Co, and a NCAA 10k champ telling me how he had won the mile average one year in like 5 flat, and saying it was a decent workout.
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