Post by dan on May 3, 2009 22:17:49 GMT -5
Well, guys, this was quite a lengthy double. It was only the second time I've ever done the full 10k-on-Friday-followed-by-5k-on-Saturday double and it was definitely a painful way to spend a weekend. It was a wonderful way to end the season, and I will start this post with the results of the 10k and 5k.
Event 32 Men 10000 Meter Run
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IC4A/ECAC: I 31:08.00
NCAA/REG: N 28:45.00
PATRIOT: P 30:41.20 2004 Matt Seynour, American
Name Year School Finals Points
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1 Anderson, Jonathan SR Army 30:43.21I 10
2 Mish, Brad SR Holy Cross 30:43.61I 8
3 Eustis, Colin SO American 30:56.40I 6
4 Loftis, Cory FR Holy Cross 30:56.88I 4
5 Sheridan, Edward SO Colgate 31:02.39I 2
6 Dorsey, Steve SO Bucknell 31:04.80I 1
7 DeWitt, Daniel SR Lehigh 31:12.35
8 Kosgei, Evans SO Lehigh 31:20.44
9 De Villers, Matthew SO Navy 31:33.87
10 Richard, Timothy JR Holy Cross 31:39.37
11 Prom, William SR Navy 31:54.87
12 Willeford, Baron JR Bucknell 32:00.11
13 Sample, Stephan SO Lehigh 32:08.37
14 Reiter, Zach Army 32:18.85
15 Ridyard, Douglas JR Lehigh 32:20.00
16 Catalano, Andrew SR Army 32:23.01
17 Weatherford, Emmet FR Colgate 32:25.12
18 Taylor, William SR Army 32:41.82
19 Orloski, Clinton SR Bucknell 32:45.24
Event 30 Men 5000 Meter Run
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IC4A/ECAC: I 14:36.00
NCAA/REG: N 14:12.00
PATRIOT: P 13:23.0h 1996 Dan Browne, Army
Name Year School Finals Points
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1 Hanko, Andrew SO Navy 14:40.48 10
2 Mish, Brad SR Holy Cross 14:51.77 8
3 Leynd**e, Matthew SR Navy 14:53.17 6
4 McClimon, Daniel SO Lehigh 14:59.73 4
5 Crowell, Nicholas SR Navy 15:01.28 2
6 Wetzel, Jonathan SR Lehigh 15:03.13 1
7 Eustis, Colin SO American 15:04.65
8 Lucid, Kevin SR Holy Cross 15:06.79
9 Kearns, William FR Lehigh 15:11.01
10 DeWitt, Daniel SR Lehigh 15:14.88
11 Kosgei, Evans SO Lehigh 15:23.79
12 Lampi, Benjamin SR Lehigh 15:23.97
13 Huebner, Andrew JR Bucknell 15:26.32
14 Loftis, Cory FR Holy Cross 15:29.92
15 Weatherford, Emmet FR Colgate 15:35.98
16 Reiter, Zach Army 15:36.48
17 Orloski, Clinton SR Bucknell 15:44.87
18 McCullough, Colin SO Lafayette 15:47.53
19 Olsen, Josh FR American 15:51.57
-- Sample, Stephan SO Lehigh DNF
-- Flach, Evan SO Lehigh DNF
My goals for this weekend were simple. I was going for the win in the 10k (or at least as high a placing as possible) and then I wanted to run as fast as possible in the 5k the next day. Ideally, I would score some points for the team and leave the meet with two new PR's. God has a funny way of making things work out, and, of course, it didn't turn out even close to how I had planned...However, I am very happy with how things went. Read on.
Let's start with the 10k. Traditionally, the 10k (at least in my years of Patriot League existence) has gone as follows: someone sacrifices their scoring hopes to those of the greater good by deciding to lead for the first 5k (usually "slow" in about 15:50-16:00), and then things get ugly in the last few miles as people surge, break, and generally fade into oblivion. Point scorers are separated by up to a minute in time differential, and the winning time almost never goes under 31:00 (note: Patriot League record is 30:41).
This year, the part about someone sacrificing scoring hopes to lead the race turned out to be true, though I doubt the two guys were planning it that way. Leading through the first 5k was Bill Prom and Matt DeVillers of Navy. Prom ran 30:33 at the Penn Relays last week and has a 14:33 indoor 5k to his credit, as well as a 8:25 3k. He is no slouch. DeVillers is a sophomore who ran 14:40 indoors and was new to the 10k, as far as I know. The first laps of the race were out in 81 and 2:37. At this point, I am very amused and slightly alarmed, too. How am I supposed to run fast when the race goes out almost ~33:00 10k pace? What is going to happen to my race when these idiots start running 70 second quarters in the back half of this race? Whatever. I just went with it. I wanted no part of the lead, so I hung back in 6th or 7th and enjoyed what was a pleasant showering of rain.
NOTE: One of my coaches informed me on the morning of the race that lightning was forecasted for the area, and the race could be altered as follows: if lightning struck before the leader had completed 5000m, the race would be called and rerun later in the evening (a full 10000m); if lightning struck after the leader had passed 5000m, the race would be called and rerun the next morning. Clearly, this was disconcerting news and I hoped that neither scenario would come to fruition. I got lucky.
Back to the race! The pace picked up in a hurry and the Navy boys got down to business. We soon settled into a surprisingly easy and mind-numbing 73 to 74 second pace per quarter (4:55 mile pace, which turns out to near 31:00 for the full 10k). I was happy to hit these times as it meant that the race might yield decent finishing times after all.
Mile splits through all of this were as follows: 5:07, 10:02 (4:55), 15:02 (5:00). At three miles, we were still rolling along smooth, but Jon Anderson of Army (13:58 5k at Penn Relays last week) was just chilling. He might as well have been taking a nap. I didn't know when he was going to go, but it was going to be a strong move whenever it happened. Well, he didn't wait long. I didn't hear a 5k split, but it would have been right around 15:39-15:40. Coming into the homestraight following that split, Anderson bolted to the front and past the front and got a lead of about 40 meters. I must have been looking down or something because I totally missed this move. It would have been crushing to see.
The good news at this point was that the 4:55-5:00 mile pace felt like a walk in the park and I still considered myself to be "in" the race. I was in it with a bunch of other guys: Brad Mish from Holy Cross (14:50, 8:30 indoors), Colin Eustis from American (14:35 outdoor 5k, ~8:30 indoor 3k), the Navy guys, Ed Sheridan from Colgate (31:02 10k at Bucknell this year), Steve Dorsey from Bucknell (15:05 5k) and some other guys, too.
I hung tight for a few more laps, and this is where the problems began to get going. I passed 4 miles in 19:57 (4:55) and started getting super anxious. I had told myself (arbitrarily) before the race that I would wait until 4.5 miles in (or more likely 6 laps to go) before I would make any sort of "move." However, my patience wore too thin and before I really could talk myself out of it, I found myself at the front of the lead pack with 8 laps to go. Anderson was running 30-40 meters in front, though not much faster than us at this point. Ideally, I would have been able to use this move to break a bunch of people. However, to do this, I would have needed to run 2:20 for the next 800m. Those of you who know my skills know how laughable it is to expect this from myself late in a race. Despite this, I had decided that I was going to make a move at some point in this race, and it had finally happened.
This move turned out to be good news for everyone BUT me. I broke the wind for everyone and ran 73 for the next lap or two, but then it got ugly. Once I got passed by one guy (Mish), they all started coming. Navy dudes were out of the picture at this point, and it was clear my competition was passing me one by one. First, it was Mish. He was followed by Eustis, Sheridan, another Holy Cross kid (freshman I don't know much about), and then Dorsey. I was dragging at this point.
The move had killed me. I didn't start running 80's or anything, but the gear that I needed to shift and roll with these guys was nowhere in sight. Mild consolation came in the fact that I passed 8000m in 24:52 (this is what I saw on the clock though the coaches' pace sheet said 24:56) so that was a new 8k PR. I did my best to keep these guys in sight as I just wanted to score a point (6th place = 1 point).
My lack of finishing kick was especially nasty this time around, as I could not catch anyone and ended up finishing in a 5:07 6th mile. With one lap to go, I was 29:59 (which means I broke 30:00 for 6 miles (woo-hoo!)), and so needed a 69 second last quarter to run 31:08 and qualify for the IC4A postseason 10k race. As the results show, this did not happen and I finished one spot out of scoring and four seconds off the IC4A mark in 31:12. All the guys who passed me after my ill-timed move ended up scoring and qualifying (if they hadn't already).
Despite not achieving my primary goals, I am very satisfied with this race. Normally, this realization takes a few days to come to, but I was already pretty okay with the way things went by the time I started cooling down. Why am I alright with this result?
1) I PR'd by 19 seconds from my 31:31 at Princeton on April 3.
2) I wanted to make a "move," and did so, however weak and ill-timed it turned out to be.
3) I negative split a 10k, after going out in 15:40 no less. This is good news to me no matter the place or time.
4) Any other year, my time nets a 2nd or 3rd place finish. What a shocker that the field is so deep this year!
5) I feel like I could have gone faster and didn't and still don't consider this to have been the best I will ever achieve.
6) I didn't get any massive blisters like I did in my last 10k, despite running on a rain-soaked track and in a steady rain for 30+ minutes. This is a big plus.
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Moving on....
The 5k is a whole different story. I am tired of typing and I am sure everyone is tired of reading, but I will try to be brief. My hope was to go out in 9:20-9:25 for two miles and then fade/hang out to a time near 14:45-14:50. The sun was out for most of the day and it turned out to be rather warm.
Warming up, I realized this was not going to be as easy to pull off as the 5k-3k double from indoor. The top of my quads felt like concrete and my feet were aching from the 25-lap assault of the day before. Regardless, I headed to the start line with a determination to at least try to get something going. From the gun, I found myself in 2nd place with another one of my teammates. We were trailing a Navy kid in this race, too. I was surprised at how comfortable the pace felt, as I expected it to be 70-71 seconds for each quarter to get me to my 9:20-9:25 two-mile split. WRONG. The first lap was 74 and they remained at that pace or slower for the entirety of the first mile. 74-74-74-75 = 4:56 for the first mile and death to the hopes of 14:45. I refused to take the lead from the Navy kid (despite his teammate's remarks from further back in the pack, calling me a rather derogatory word for refusing to help out) because I knew they would hop right up my butt if I took over pacing duties.
After the first mile, it became rather clear they were in no hurry to pick up the pace and they wanted someone else to do it. A younger guy from our team (Will Kearns, 14:49 earlier this year) took over and it was like an explosion of people passing me at this point. I went from 2nd to about 10th in like 15 meters. Nuts. Lots of jostling and heel-clipping. Anyway, at this point, it was time for survival mode as the pace was heating up and my tolerance was slowly fading. It was comforting to know we were finally hitting some good splits (69-70) but I knew it was only a matter of time until I was out of juice. Two miles was 9:44 (4:48 for mile 2). I figured I would be hitting 75 or so for each lap until the end, but I was surprised to find I could run 73-74 and hang in there. I wasn't getting back up to the race, but I wasn't dying either.
Long story made slightly shorter, I passed a few of my own teammates and then got passed back by a few, etc. I closed my third mile in 4:53 (14:37 at three miles), and ended up running my last 400 in 72 for a time of 15:14.88. I finished ninth in my heat and 10th overall as some kid from the slow heat had run 15:06.
I am happy with this time as it was very slow going out and before these past two seasons, it would have been a PR. Nothing to complain about there...
I could expound more on this race, but there isn't much to say. It hurt. I did the best I could. End of story.
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Today I ran 15 slow miles and will spend the rest of the week convincing myself that I can hang on another 30 days to run the Decker's Creek Half and try to get that sub 1:11 for Chicago corral purposes. We'll see.
One more final in the morning, and then some team stuff the rest of the week. I'll be home on Thursday. Looking forward to seeing all of you!
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I think I have won the award for longest post in QCS message board history. I am very proud of this title. Try to beat it.
DAN
Event 32 Men 10000 Meter Run
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IC4A/ECAC: I 31:08.00
NCAA/REG: N 28:45.00
PATRIOT: P 30:41.20 2004 Matt Seynour, American
Name Year School Finals Points
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1 Anderson, Jonathan SR Army 30:43.21I 10
2 Mish, Brad SR Holy Cross 30:43.61I 8
3 Eustis, Colin SO American 30:56.40I 6
4 Loftis, Cory FR Holy Cross 30:56.88I 4
5 Sheridan, Edward SO Colgate 31:02.39I 2
6 Dorsey, Steve SO Bucknell 31:04.80I 1
7 DeWitt, Daniel SR Lehigh 31:12.35
8 Kosgei, Evans SO Lehigh 31:20.44
9 De Villers, Matthew SO Navy 31:33.87
10 Richard, Timothy JR Holy Cross 31:39.37
11 Prom, William SR Navy 31:54.87
12 Willeford, Baron JR Bucknell 32:00.11
13 Sample, Stephan SO Lehigh 32:08.37
14 Reiter, Zach Army 32:18.85
15 Ridyard, Douglas JR Lehigh 32:20.00
16 Catalano, Andrew SR Army 32:23.01
17 Weatherford, Emmet FR Colgate 32:25.12
18 Taylor, William SR Army 32:41.82
19 Orloski, Clinton SR Bucknell 32:45.24
Event 30 Men 5000 Meter Run
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IC4A/ECAC: I 14:36.00
NCAA/REG: N 14:12.00
PATRIOT: P 13:23.0h 1996 Dan Browne, Army
Name Year School Finals Points
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1 Hanko, Andrew SO Navy 14:40.48 10
2 Mish, Brad SR Holy Cross 14:51.77 8
3 Leynd**e, Matthew SR Navy 14:53.17 6
4 McClimon, Daniel SO Lehigh 14:59.73 4
5 Crowell, Nicholas SR Navy 15:01.28 2
6 Wetzel, Jonathan SR Lehigh 15:03.13 1
7 Eustis, Colin SO American 15:04.65
8 Lucid, Kevin SR Holy Cross 15:06.79
9 Kearns, William FR Lehigh 15:11.01
10 DeWitt, Daniel SR Lehigh 15:14.88
11 Kosgei, Evans SO Lehigh 15:23.79
12 Lampi, Benjamin SR Lehigh 15:23.97
13 Huebner, Andrew JR Bucknell 15:26.32
14 Loftis, Cory FR Holy Cross 15:29.92
15 Weatherford, Emmet FR Colgate 15:35.98
16 Reiter, Zach Army 15:36.48
17 Orloski, Clinton SR Bucknell 15:44.87
18 McCullough, Colin SO Lafayette 15:47.53
19 Olsen, Josh FR American 15:51.57
-- Sample, Stephan SO Lehigh DNF
-- Flach, Evan SO Lehigh DNF
My goals for this weekend were simple. I was going for the win in the 10k (or at least as high a placing as possible) and then I wanted to run as fast as possible in the 5k the next day. Ideally, I would score some points for the team and leave the meet with two new PR's. God has a funny way of making things work out, and, of course, it didn't turn out even close to how I had planned...However, I am very happy with how things went. Read on.
Let's start with the 10k. Traditionally, the 10k (at least in my years of Patriot League existence) has gone as follows: someone sacrifices their scoring hopes to those of the greater good by deciding to lead for the first 5k (usually "slow" in about 15:50-16:00), and then things get ugly in the last few miles as people surge, break, and generally fade into oblivion. Point scorers are separated by up to a minute in time differential, and the winning time almost never goes under 31:00 (note: Patriot League record is 30:41).
This year, the part about someone sacrificing scoring hopes to lead the race turned out to be true, though I doubt the two guys were planning it that way. Leading through the first 5k was Bill Prom and Matt DeVillers of Navy. Prom ran 30:33 at the Penn Relays last week and has a 14:33 indoor 5k to his credit, as well as a 8:25 3k. He is no slouch. DeVillers is a sophomore who ran 14:40 indoors and was new to the 10k, as far as I know. The first laps of the race were out in 81 and 2:37. At this point, I am very amused and slightly alarmed, too. How am I supposed to run fast when the race goes out almost ~33:00 10k pace? What is going to happen to my race when these idiots start running 70 second quarters in the back half of this race? Whatever. I just went with it. I wanted no part of the lead, so I hung back in 6th or 7th and enjoyed what was a pleasant showering of rain.
NOTE: One of my coaches informed me on the morning of the race that lightning was forecasted for the area, and the race could be altered as follows: if lightning struck before the leader had completed 5000m, the race would be called and rerun later in the evening (a full 10000m); if lightning struck after the leader had passed 5000m, the race would be called and rerun the next morning. Clearly, this was disconcerting news and I hoped that neither scenario would come to fruition. I got lucky.
Back to the race! The pace picked up in a hurry and the Navy boys got down to business. We soon settled into a surprisingly easy and mind-numbing 73 to 74 second pace per quarter (4:55 mile pace, which turns out to near 31:00 for the full 10k). I was happy to hit these times as it meant that the race might yield decent finishing times after all.
Mile splits through all of this were as follows: 5:07, 10:02 (4:55), 15:02 (5:00). At three miles, we were still rolling along smooth, but Jon Anderson of Army (13:58 5k at Penn Relays last week) was just chilling. He might as well have been taking a nap. I didn't know when he was going to go, but it was going to be a strong move whenever it happened. Well, he didn't wait long. I didn't hear a 5k split, but it would have been right around 15:39-15:40. Coming into the homestraight following that split, Anderson bolted to the front and past the front and got a lead of about 40 meters. I must have been looking down or something because I totally missed this move. It would have been crushing to see.
The good news at this point was that the 4:55-5:00 mile pace felt like a walk in the park and I still considered myself to be "in" the race. I was in it with a bunch of other guys: Brad Mish from Holy Cross (14:50, 8:30 indoors), Colin Eustis from American (14:35 outdoor 5k, ~8:30 indoor 3k), the Navy guys, Ed Sheridan from Colgate (31:02 10k at Bucknell this year), Steve Dorsey from Bucknell (15:05 5k) and some other guys, too.
I hung tight for a few more laps, and this is where the problems began to get going. I passed 4 miles in 19:57 (4:55) and started getting super anxious. I had told myself (arbitrarily) before the race that I would wait until 4.5 miles in (or more likely 6 laps to go) before I would make any sort of "move." However, my patience wore too thin and before I really could talk myself out of it, I found myself at the front of the lead pack with 8 laps to go. Anderson was running 30-40 meters in front, though not much faster than us at this point. Ideally, I would have been able to use this move to break a bunch of people. However, to do this, I would have needed to run 2:20 for the next 800m. Those of you who know my skills know how laughable it is to expect this from myself late in a race. Despite this, I had decided that I was going to make a move at some point in this race, and it had finally happened.
This move turned out to be good news for everyone BUT me. I broke the wind for everyone and ran 73 for the next lap or two, but then it got ugly. Once I got passed by one guy (Mish), they all started coming. Navy dudes were out of the picture at this point, and it was clear my competition was passing me one by one. First, it was Mish. He was followed by Eustis, Sheridan, another Holy Cross kid (freshman I don't know much about), and then Dorsey. I was dragging at this point.
The move had killed me. I didn't start running 80's or anything, but the gear that I needed to shift and roll with these guys was nowhere in sight. Mild consolation came in the fact that I passed 8000m in 24:52 (this is what I saw on the clock though the coaches' pace sheet said 24:56) so that was a new 8k PR. I did my best to keep these guys in sight as I just wanted to score a point (6th place = 1 point).
My lack of finishing kick was especially nasty this time around, as I could not catch anyone and ended up finishing in a 5:07 6th mile. With one lap to go, I was 29:59 (which means I broke 30:00 for 6 miles (woo-hoo!)), and so needed a 69 second last quarter to run 31:08 and qualify for the IC4A postseason 10k race. As the results show, this did not happen and I finished one spot out of scoring and four seconds off the IC4A mark in 31:12. All the guys who passed me after my ill-timed move ended up scoring and qualifying (if they hadn't already).
Despite not achieving my primary goals, I am very satisfied with this race. Normally, this realization takes a few days to come to, but I was already pretty okay with the way things went by the time I started cooling down. Why am I alright with this result?
1) I PR'd by 19 seconds from my 31:31 at Princeton on April 3.
2) I wanted to make a "move," and did so, however weak and ill-timed it turned out to be.
3) I negative split a 10k, after going out in 15:40 no less. This is good news to me no matter the place or time.
4) Any other year, my time nets a 2nd or 3rd place finish. What a shocker that the field is so deep this year!
5) I feel like I could have gone faster and didn't and still don't consider this to have been the best I will ever achieve.
6) I didn't get any massive blisters like I did in my last 10k, despite running on a rain-soaked track and in a steady rain for 30+ minutes. This is a big plus.
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Moving on....
The 5k is a whole different story. I am tired of typing and I am sure everyone is tired of reading, but I will try to be brief. My hope was to go out in 9:20-9:25 for two miles and then fade/hang out to a time near 14:45-14:50. The sun was out for most of the day and it turned out to be rather warm.
Warming up, I realized this was not going to be as easy to pull off as the 5k-3k double from indoor. The top of my quads felt like concrete and my feet were aching from the 25-lap assault of the day before. Regardless, I headed to the start line with a determination to at least try to get something going. From the gun, I found myself in 2nd place with another one of my teammates. We were trailing a Navy kid in this race, too. I was surprised at how comfortable the pace felt, as I expected it to be 70-71 seconds for each quarter to get me to my 9:20-9:25 two-mile split. WRONG. The first lap was 74 and they remained at that pace or slower for the entirety of the first mile. 74-74-74-75 = 4:56 for the first mile and death to the hopes of 14:45. I refused to take the lead from the Navy kid (despite his teammate's remarks from further back in the pack, calling me a rather derogatory word for refusing to help out) because I knew they would hop right up my butt if I took over pacing duties.
After the first mile, it became rather clear they were in no hurry to pick up the pace and they wanted someone else to do it. A younger guy from our team (Will Kearns, 14:49 earlier this year) took over and it was like an explosion of people passing me at this point. I went from 2nd to about 10th in like 15 meters. Nuts. Lots of jostling and heel-clipping. Anyway, at this point, it was time for survival mode as the pace was heating up and my tolerance was slowly fading. It was comforting to know we were finally hitting some good splits (69-70) but I knew it was only a matter of time until I was out of juice. Two miles was 9:44 (4:48 for mile 2). I figured I would be hitting 75 or so for each lap until the end, but I was surprised to find I could run 73-74 and hang in there. I wasn't getting back up to the race, but I wasn't dying either.
Long story made slightly shorter, I passed a few of my own teammates and then got passed back by a few, etc. I closed my third mile in 4:53 (14:37 at three miles), and ended up running my last 400 in 72 for a time of 15:14.88. I finished ninth in my heat and 10th overall as some kid from the slow heat had run 15:06.
I am happy with this time as it was very slow going out and before these past two seasons, it would have been a PR. Nothing to complain about there...
I could expound more on this race, but there isn't much to say. It hurt. I did the best I could. End of story.
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Today I ran 15 slow miles and will spend the rest of the week convincing myself that I can hang on another 30 days to run the Decker's Creek Half and try to get that sub 1:11 for Chicago corral purposes. We'll see.
One more final in the morning, and then some team stuff the rest of the week. I'll be home on Thursday. Looking forward to seeing all of you!
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I think I have won the award for longest post in QCS message board history. I am very proud of this title. Try to beat it.
DAN
