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Post by scott on Sept 13, 2006 11:58:58 GMT -5
In no way am i trying to say these guys didnt run a awesome race, but i know lasts years course was different from 2004's, becasue we started on the road, not on the upper grass field. So was this years course the same as lasts years or not? Just wondering
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Post by Targus on Sept 13, 2006 14:10:19 GMT -5
The course was the same as last year. It started on the road, with an uphill start, and ended on the road with an uphill finish. The only runner that appeared to be using this race as just a training run was Eric Frohnapfel of University High. He didn't appear to be running hard.
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Post by dan on Sept 13, 2006 19:28:46 GMT -5
Now I feel like such an old man. Thank you, Darrell, for accentuating the fact that my high school days are long gone!
If, in fact, the course was the same as the one I ran 17:08 on as a senior, then that is a great accomplishment. That course started in the field at the entrance to the park, ran down across the dam and then around a loop and back across the dam, left off the dam and into the woods, and then up the steep hill (which used to be the finish) and then down the long blacktop road, back up through the woods, past the start, and then down by the shore and back up the hill to finish.
Any old-timers who were at that meet in 2004, when Scott and I raced the now famous Eric Ryan in the last 800, will recall that I puked off to the side three times in that last 8, something to do with yellow Gatorade too soon before the race. Anyway, Scott refused to lead even after I told him to just take it. I ended up getting a second wind/clear nostrils for a few seconds and then took the lead and bolted up the hill. It was a great race.
17:04 and 17:15 up there, no matter what the course, is excellent. I always loved running up there because that was about as "real" as XC got for me. There was always the rock-filled ditch disguised by tons of leaves, and I fell in those woods off the dam once, almost taking out John Talerico in the process.
Then the picture in the newspaper was in black and white and made it appear like the mud on my leg was just a chunk missing. Quite exciting, at least for me.
Anyway, two points to this: 1) Great runs by Bowser and Morris. It makes me very happy to see the dominance of the west Western Maryland continuing through these and the other guys in the area. 2) Scott should have taken the lead and won the race so he, too, like me, could say that he beat Eric Ryan, who, as we all know, went on to run 4:15-6 and 1:51 later that year. 3) There was a lot of commas in #2.
Goodbye and good luck to everyone in all the upcoming races!
DAN
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Post by frojoe23 on Sept 13, 2006 19:38:17 GMT -5
Great accomplishments for sure, but I consider the old course to be tougher than the newer one. This one started in the field below the dam and ran the loop that they now do in the first mile, then the course went back over the dam and you took a right and ran up the side of the road that they now run down for the start. You then ran down one of the trails in the woods and when you hit the bottom, you somehow made it over to the huge hill off of the side of the dam (now right after the first mile) and then you finished in the field at the top of the road (where the start was two years ago). I remember Ryan Foster of Beall running 16:40 on that course to break Ryan Howard's record. Then a year later Scott Gemberling ran 16:40 there as a junior.
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Post by chris on Sept 14, 2006 10:45:03 GMT -5
Bowser was impressive, but was Dan pushed like Ryan was?
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Post by scott on Sept 15, 2006 12:42:23 GMT -5
Chris they ran on different courses, so times are impossible to compare
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Post by marc on Sept 16, 2006 19:35:51 GMT -5
I think that the results from Mountaintop show that the Area, Region and State meet will be really competitive. I've never ran Preston's course though, so I don't know how it exactly compares to any of the championship races.
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